Svevi (lat. Suebi ili Suevi, nem. Sueben, Sweben, Sueven ili Suawen)
Prostorima Portugala tokom istorije prošli su i zadržali se mnogi narodi i civilizacije: Iberi, Kelti, Feničani i Kartaginjani, Grci, germanska plemena (Svevi i Vizigoti) i Mavari svojim kulturama ostavili su traga u ovoj zemlji.
DAKLE, SUEBI, TO SU GERMANIZOVANI SRBI, KOJI SU U NEMAČKOJ POSTALI ŠVABE, U ŠVAJCARSKOJ- ŠVAJCARCI, A U ŠVEDSKOJ ŠVEĐANI.
Iako je uobičajeno verovanje među istoričarima da su Svevi (lat. Suebi ili Suevi, nem. Sueben, Sweben, Sueven ili Suawen) čisto germanskog porekla, danas se ovom pitanju prilazi sa više opreza. Tako npr. nemački istoričar Karl Bosl na jednom mestu u svojoj knjizi „Europa im Mittelalter“(Evropa u Srednjem veku) iznosi zaključak da su Svebi slovenskog porekla.
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Janusz Bożydar Daniewski:
Суеби су били Словени(Срби)
Одломак из научног часописа “Przegląd Klasyczny” из 1936. године који је излазио у Лавову, овде се ради о Суебима који су, према мишљењу Пољака Janusz Bożydar Daniewski, били Словени(Срби).
На крају свог излагања Даниевски закључује следеће, текст у фокусу(серб.), страна 729:
»Идеја да Словени(Срби) нису обухваћени било каквим именом које је познато древним ауторима, већ да су се негде око V. века појавили ни од куда населивши огроман простор Европе, такво, и главно правило међу научницима о Словенима(Србима), је потпуно неисправно. Словени(Срби) су били у антици не само под именима из тог времена познатим нама, али, као што смо и доказали, ово древно име (Суеби, Свеви, Suabe-Švabe) је било њихово властито име у земљама око Лабе, Одре, Висле и на обалама Балтика, појављује се такође у каснијим временима и живи и дан данас.
Немачки научници берлинско-аустријске школе нам говоре о доласку Словена(Срба) на Лабу, Одру и Балтик негде између антике и средњег века, то је прича која је у супротности са сачуваним историјским споменицима. Тешко је прихватити да немачки научници искрено верују у оно што пишу. словенски(сербски) научници не би требали понављати, како се често може приметити, тенденциозне неистине немачких научника, већ би требали да иду својим путем у складу са историјском истином.
Ту се јавља једна мисао из Андерсенове бајке о царевој одећи: “Нико се не усуђује да каже очигледну истину када је истина у супротности са доминантним, изузетно лажним мишљењем”. Надамо се да ћемо не задуго од овог момента, моћи да кажемо више о самој историји западних Словена(Срба) у њиховим историјским насељима: “Нико није толико луд да види, нико толико изопачен да не призна” (цитат Цицерона).«
(пољски:)
»Mniemanie, że Slowiane nie kryja się pod żadną nazwa, znaną starożytnym – tylko gdzieś okolo V w. Chr. ni stąd ni zowąd się pojawili i zaludnili ogromna część Europy – mniemanie, utrzumujące się jako kardynalna zasada dotad u wielu badaczy początków Slowian, jest z gruntu blędne. Slowiane w staroźytności nie tylko kryli się pod znanymi nam renie nad Łabą, Odrą, Wislą i nad brzegami Baltyku ta nazva staroźytna jest ich wlasna nazwą, występującą i w czasach późniejszych i źyjaca do dziś dnia.
Uczeni niemieccy ze szkoly berlińsko – austiackiej opowiadąją o przyjśnieściu Slowian nad Łąbę, Odrę i Baltyk na przelomie staroźytności i średniowiecza, co stoi w sprzeczności z dochowanymi pomnikami dziejowymi. Trudno przupuścić, żeby uczeni niemieccy szczerze wierzyli w to, co piszą. Uczeni slowiańscy nie powinni powtarzać, jak to często dotąd obserwowaliśmy, tendencyjnych falszy uezonych niemieckich, lecz kroczyć o wlasnych silach zgodnie z prawdą historyczną. Nasuwa się tu na myśl sentencja owej bajki Andersena o szatech królewskich: nikt nie śmie powiedzieć oczywistej rzeczy, gdy jest to sprzeczne z dominucym choć notorycznie falszywym mniemaniem.«
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Извор и назив дела:
Источник: Przegląd Klasyczny. 1936 R.2 nr9-10
Наслов: W SPRAWIE ETYMOLOGII SUEVI = SLAVI, стр. 725 – 729
Аутор: Janusz Božydar Daniewski
Страна: 729
Сарадник: Ganszyniec Ryszard. Red.
Czasopisma filologiczne polskie 20w. ; Henryk Sienkiewicz (1846-1916) “Quo vadis” ; filologia klasyczna czasopisma ; język łaciński nauczanie ; Słowianie
Издавач: Filareta
Место : Lwów
Тип: научни часопис
Језик : пољски
Издање : 1936
Локација: PAN Biblioteka Kórnicka
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A ŠTA KAŽU JOŠ NEKI STRANI IZVORI …
Early history:
Main articles: Lusitania, Visigothic Kingdom, Suebic Kingdom of Galicia, and Umayyad conquest of Hispania
The early history of Portugal is shared with the rest of the Iberian Peninsula. The name of Portugal derives from the Roman name Portus Cale. The region was settled by Pre-Celts and Celts, giving origin to peoples like the Gallaeci, Lusitanians, Celtici and Cynetes, visited by Phoenicians and Carthaginians, incorporated in the Roman Republic dominions as Lusitania after 45 BC until 298, settled again by Suebi, Buri, and Visigoths, and conquered by Moors.
The Suebi or Suevi(from Proto-Germanic *swēbaz based on the Proto-Germanic root *swē- meaning „one’s own“ people,[1] from an Indo-European root *swe-,[2] the third person reflexive pronoun) were a group of Germanic peoples[3] who were first mentioned by Julius Caesar in connection with Ariovistus’ campaign, c. 58 BC;[4] Ariovistus was defeated by Caesar.
Some Suebi, Suabe (Srbi) remained a periodic threat against the Romans on the Rhine, until, toward the end of the empire, the Alamanni, including elements of Suebi, brushed aside Roman defenses and occupied Alsace, and from there Bavaria and Switzerland. Except for a pocket in Swabia (Srbija) (an area in southwest Germany whose modern name derives from the ancient name), and migrants to Gallaecia (modern Galicia, in Spain, and Northern Portugal), no more was heard of the Suebi.
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The Suebic Kingdom of Galicia was the first barbarian kingdom to separate from the Roman Empire and mint coins. Located in Gallaecia and northern Lusitania, it was established in 410 and lasted until 584 after a century of slow decline. Smaller than the Ostrogothic kingdom of Italy or the Visigothic kingdom in Hispania, it never reached major political relevance.
The historiography of Suebic Galicia was long marginalised in Spanish culture; it was left to a German scholar to write the first connected history of the Suebi in Galicia, as writer-historian Xoán Bernárdez Vilar has pointed out.
Little is known about the Suevi before they crossed the Rhine on the night of December 31, 406 A.D. and entered the Roman Empire. It is speculated that the Suevi are the same group as the Quadi, who are mentioned in early writings, and lived north of the middle Danube located today in lower Austria and western Slovakia.[2] The reasoning behind the believe that the Suevi and Quadi are the same, or at least related groups comes from a letter written by St. Jerome to Ageruchia, listing the invaders of the 406 crossing into Gaul, in which the Quadi are listed and the Suevi are not.[3] The argument for this theory, however, is based solely on the disappearance of mention of the Quadi in Gaul and the emergence of the Suevi. Additionally the lack of mention of the Suevicould mean that they are not a distinct ethnic group. Perhaps the Suevi were the result of many smaller groups who banded together during the migration from central Europe to the Iberian Peninsula.
Another Germanic group that accompanied the Suebi and settled in Gallaecia were the Buri
Swebic kingdom …
* Hermeric, c. 409–438
* Heremigarius, 427–429, leader in Lusitania
* Rechila, 438–448
* Rechiar, 448–456
* Aioulf, 456–457, foreigner, possibly appointee of the Visigoths
* Maldras, 456–460, in opposition to Framta after 457
* Framta, 457, in opposition to Maldras
* Richimund, 457–464, successor of Framta
* Frumar, 460–464, successor of Maldras
* Remismund, 464–469, succeeded Frumar, reunited the Suebi
* Period of obscurity
o Hermeneric fl. c. 485
o Veremund fl. 535
o Theodemund fl. 6th century
* Chararic, after c.550–558/559, existence sometimes doubted
* Ariamir, 558/559–561/566
* Theodemar, 561/566–570
* Miro, 570–583
* Eboric, 583–584, deposed and put in a monastery by Andeca.
* Andeca, 584–585, deposed and put in a monastery by Leovigild.
* Malaric, 585, opposed Leovigild and was defeated.
JEDINO IME KOJE I DANAS MI DAJEMO JE MIRO
MIRO TJ MIRKO, SRPSKI KRALJ U GALICIJI.
Miro (Mir, Mirio, Mirus) was the Suevic King of Galicia from 570 until his death in 583. His reign was marked by attempts to forge alliances with other Catholic nations with the goal of checking the power of the Arian Visigoths under Leovigild. During his reign relations were established with both Francia and the Byzantine Empire and the kingdom reached its zenith, but it collapsed within three years of his death.
Miro enjoyed good relations with the Church during his reign. In 572 he called the Second Council of Braga, a supplementary council to the First Council of Braga of 561. It has even been suggested, based on the lack of a signatory for the diocese of Dumio in the concilar acts, that Miro himself may have represented that see.
Miro also maintained „intimate and friendly“ relations with Martin of Dumio, the Archbishop of Braga and Metropolitan of Gallaecia. Martin’s principal work, Formula Vitae Honestae, is dedicated to him, and the Exhortatio Humilitatis, printed among Martin’s works, is also probably addressed to him. Indeed, Martin advised Miro’s counsellors to read his Formula so as to be able better to consel the king.
In the same year as the council of Braga, Miro conducted an expedition against the Ruccones (Runcones) of Cantabria, possibly a Basque tribe, with the intention of expanding his kingdom. This attack on a people within the Gothic kingdom was perhaps an excuse for Gothic reprisals against the Sueves. In 573 Leovigild subdued the region of „Sabaria“ (probably between Zamora and Salamanca) with the likely intention of preempting Miro. In 574 he „restored the province [of Cantabria] to his dominion.“ In response, Miro sent envoys Guntram, the Frankish King of Burgundy and a consistent thorn in Leovigild’s side, but they were intercepted and detained on the way by Leovigild’s ally, Chilperic I, the Frankish king of Neustria.
In 575 Leovigild invaded the „Aregensian Mountains“ near Ourense and captured „the lord of the region, along with his wife, children, and riches, bringing the region under his power.“Aspidius, the „lord of the region“, may have been a Hispano-Roman landowner who had sided with the Suevi. In 576 Leovigild again marched to the southern frontier of Galicia (the Douro) and menaced the small kingdom, even founding the city of Villa Gothorum (modern Toro). Miro sued for peace, and obtained it for a short time.[2] In 580 Miro endeavoured to support Leovigild’s Catholic son Hermenegild in rebellion.
For the events surrounding Miro’s death, the contemporary and near-contemporary accounts conflict. According to Gregory of Tours, in 583 Miro led an army to raise the siege of Seville by Leovigild, but the two kings held a conference before Miro had reached Seville and he returned to Galicia, where he died shortly after, supposedly from the effects of the bad air and water of Baetica. On the other hand, two Iberian chroniclers, John of Biclar and Isidore of Seville, concur that he died before Seville while assisting Leovigild with the siege of the town. Modern scholarship favours Gregory’s interpretation, taking into account Miro’s alliances with Francia and Byzantium, Suevic animosity to the Goths, and the shared Catholic faith of Sueves and rebels.
He was succeeded in provincia Gallacciæ by his son adolescent Eboric. He also left a widow, Sisegu(n)tia, who married Andeca, who deposed Eboric and took to ruling in Gallaccia Suevorum regnum
ODAVDE IZDVAJAM SPOMENUTI REGION „SABARIA“
subdued the region of „Sabaria“ (probably between Zamora and Salamanca) with the likely intention of preempting Miro.
Ali, u Spaniji je i grad SEVILJA sigurno od nih dobio ime (Suevi, Sevilja) !
According to Gregory of Tours, in 583 Miro led an army to raise the siege of Seville by Leovigild, but the two kings held a conference before Miro had reached Seville and he returned to Galicia, where he died shortly after, supposedly from the effects of the bad air and water of Baetica
Na engl , hr, sr..Wikipediji nigdje nema o imenu Sevilja…piše:
206. god. osvojio ga je i uništio rimski zapovjednik Scipion Stariji koji je započeo obnovu grada kojeg su zvali Hispalis, ali je i osnovao susjedni grad Italicu. Italica je danas najveći rimski arheološki lokalitet u Španjolskoj. Za vrijeme sukoba s Pompejem oko 45. god., Julije Cezar ju je utvrdio zidinama i prozvao Colonia Iulia Romana. U rimsko doba Sevilla je postala važnim trgovištem eteričnim uljima.
Nakon pada Zapadnog Rimskog Carstva gradom su dominirali Vandali, a od 461. god. Vizigoti. Početkom 7. st. u Sevilli djeluje njen nadbiskup, Sveti Izidor Seviljski, koji snažno utječe na vizigotsku vladavinu. God. 712., osvojili su je Mauri koji su vladali iz Cordobe i nazvali je Išbīliya (إشبيلية)
DAKLE, ZVAO SE HISPALIS, A ISIDOR SVETI SE VEC ZOVE SEVILJSKI, I KASNIJE MUSLIMANI GA NAZIVAJU ISIBILIJA…ALI NEMA PODATKA ZASTO JE SEVILJA,DA LI OD SVEVA, SVEVILJA? DA, sigurno, zato i ne govore…
Sveti Izidor Seviljski (španjolski: San Isidro ili San Isidoro de Sevilla) – biskup i crkveni učitelj (556. – 636.).
( vreme se bas poklapa sa SRPSKIM KRALJEVSTVOM NA TIM PROSTORIMA) !
BRAT MU JE LEANDAR SEVILJSKI…
http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%99%D
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